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HostMaster
08-27-2006, 10:36 PM
ma_psay shoon (ADMIN) Shadowfox to (shoon) : talk to hstngsltns on aim. be nice, he's an uptight man

That's right, we have logs of everything.. They will go public soon. We are watching you. All of you. The commands you issue will be viewable by the world, including those who you talk about or abuse.. be afraid, very afraid.

bigboy61483
08-27-2006, 10:40 PM
something that could be posted over this forum or maybe the philips data site?
sry hostmaster, i fear nothing.

MaStEr~X
08-27-2006, 10:41 PM
There is going to be a way for anyone and everyone to view the past 24-hour CSS Admin logs. Meaning, simply, everyone will be able to view which admin issued which command at what time. This is so some players that have complaints can view who issued commands on them.
Admins should be aware that the commands they issue will be made public.
Saying that, I hope to see less ma_chat and ma_say commands being issued.

And I don't want to see some of these abuses:

M 08/07/2006 - 20:47:23: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slapped user [rob] [STEAM_0:0:453982] with 0 damage
M 08/07/2006 - 20:47:26: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slapped user [rob] [STEAM_0:0:453982] with 0 damage
M 08/07/2006 - 20:47:29: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slapped user [rob] [STEAM_0:0:453982] with 0 damage
M 08/07/2006 - 20:47:37: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slapped user [robonphone] [STEAM_0:0:453982] with 0 damage
M 08/07/2006 - 20:47:40: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slapped user [robonphone] [STEAM_0:0:453982] with 0 damage
M 08/07/2006 - 20:47:43: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slapped user [robonphone] [STEAM_0:0:453982] with 0 damage
M 08/07/2006 - 20:50:25: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : gave user [(+)SNiperK(+)] [STEAM_0:1:3438089] item [+]
M 08/07/2006 - 20:52:29: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : gave user [(+)SNiperK(+)] [STEAM_0:1:3438089] item [+]
M 08/07/2006 - 20:52:40: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : gave user [(+)SNiperK(+)] [STEAM_0:1:3438089] item [+]
M 08/07/2006 - 20:53:17: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : gave user [(+)SNiperK(+)] [STEAM_0:1:3438089] item [weapon_awp]
M 08/07/2006 - 20:54:43: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : gave user [(+)SNiperK(+)] [STEAM_0:1:3438089] item [weapon_awp]
M 08/07/2006 - 20:56:47: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : (ALL) ma_say mafia stfu....
M 08/07/2006 - 20:58:02: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : gave user [(+)SNiperK(+)] [STEAM_0:1:3438089] item [weapon_awp]
M 08/07/2006 - 21:08:35: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : (ALL) ma_Say ok gtg see ya later sniper, keep being uber 1337
M 08/08/2006 - 12:42:18: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : (ALL) ma_Say dgo defuise!
M 08/08/2006 - 12:42:26: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide *music*] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : (ALL) ma_Say dumbass


M 08/20/2006 - 15:23:45: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Brad] [BOT]
M 08/20/2006 - 15:24:18: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Adam] [BOT]
M 08/20/2006 - 15:24:20: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Brad] [BOT]
M 08/20/2006 - 15:24:25: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Mark] [BOT]
M 08/20/2006 - 15:24:32: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Doug] [BOT]
M 08/20/2006 - 15:24:37: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Grant] [BOT]

M 08/27/2006 - 14:20:38: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [`homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : slayed user [Rocket Sauce] [STEAM_0:0:5446805]
M 08/27/2006 - 14:21:04: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [`homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : drugged user [Rocket Sauce] [STEAM_0:0:5446805]

M 08/26/2006 - 20:49:58: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [`homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : bot_kick [Dave]
M 08/26/2006 - 20:50:09: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [`homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : bot_kick [Ethan]

M 07/23/2006 - 12:57:09: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd] homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : forced c4 drop on player [--MW--CRF450] [STEAM_0:1:2909271]

M 07/25/2006 - 19:12:33: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [[pd]Homizide aka the dove man] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : beaconed user [coditsa] [STEAM_0:1:2260923]

M 07/18/2006 - 22:08:52: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanky] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : bot_kick [Mike]

M 07/29/2006 - 23:18:18: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : ma_csay plant!!!!!
M 07/29/2006 - 23:18:20: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : ma_csay plant!!!!!
M 07/29/2006 - 23:18:21: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : ma_csay plant!!!!!

M 08/05/2006 - 12:50:02: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : ma_csay defuse that bomb ... HURRY!
M 08/05/2006 - 12:50:06: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : ma_csay defuse that bomb ... HURRY!

M 08/05/2006 - 12:50:25: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : slapped user [Datman] [STEAM_0:1:9831422] with 0 damage
M 08/05/2006 - 12:52:47: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : drugged user [Bloo Poo] [STEAM_0:1:5896000]

M 08/11/2006 - 00:04:50: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : drugged user [M@ma's_B(+)Y] [STEAM_0:0:527113]

M 08/25/2006 - 18:35:38: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : slayed user [Creepjaw] [STEAM_0:0:7523432]
M 08/25/2006 - 18:35:57: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : (CHAT) @ stop being afk!! hehe


M 08/26/2006 - 12:23:24: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : bot_kick [Doug]
M 08/26/2006 - 12:23:28: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : bot_kick [Erik]
M 08/26/2006 - 12:23:33: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : bot_kick [Harold]
M 08/26/2006 - 12:23:38: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : bot_kick [Jeff]
M 08/26/2006 - 12:23:43: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : bot_kick [Jon]
M 08/26/2006 - 12:23:52: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : (ALL) @ h8 bots
M 08/26/2006 - 12:25:17: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : (CHAT) @ ratehr have empty server than have bots

M 08/26/2006 - 12:27:27: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : (CHAT) @ i never found him hacking..iv'e speced him many times
M 08/26/2006 - 12:30:19: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [shanҲ] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : (CHAT) @ if he bugs u that much perm ban him

M 07/20/2006 - 11:46:58: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [M@ma's_B(+)Y] [STEAM_0:0:527113] Executed : beaconed user [Er!k] [STEAM_0:0:5226174]

M 08/22/2006 - 17:48:54: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [homizide] [STEAM_0:0:7125997] Executed : (ALL) ma_Say please dont put down the jesus spray thank you, I just dont want religion race ect brought into CS

Sprays depicting Jesus in a respectful way are allowed. ie, Jesus posing from the camera. Not ok: Jesus with an ak47, flipping off your mom, or saying 'pwnt'.

HostMaster
08-27-2006, 10:56 PM
you fear more than you realize. if only i was telling the whole story.

everything will be revealed in due time.

bigboy61483
08-27-2006, 11:27 PM
masterx began the rest of it.

KillerRabbit
08-28-2006, 08:49 AM
Question, does this have anything to do why mani keeps saying im not a admin on the server? or is the mod just wacked. Asumeing I don't have any private messages, I'm taking it as just a glitch. Or is host being lazy again?

Host are you sure you want to make it public?, I'm sure thats going to start drama one way or another.

MaStEr~X
08-28-2006, 11:14 AM
No one has admin privilages until further stated.

Tatsuo
08-28-2006, 01:00 PM
hehe

I think host gave shadow and I a heads up when he messaged us on the server. Until the matter of the server freezing is resolved i guess there's nothing we can do. :(

Caladium
08-28-2006, 01:56 PM
Lol, looks cool ;D I personally can't wait for this to happen.

KillerRabbit
08-28-2006, 03:51 PM
Only thing I disagree is posting ma_chat unless you dont put in the talk about hackers or possible hackers. Its bad enough wallhackers are almost impossible to see if they cover it up even if they are prefireing ect they can just say sound/headphones/radar ect. Even when they cover it up they still get ahuge advantage and I don't want them able to go to here and see that admins are questioning them so they hide it better. Plus some players get offended by being called hackers. Over all that command is made just for admins.. so I still dont see why you have to let everplayer on the server have access to what we say in private (sure you have a idea).

As for the line "if he bugs you perm ban" that was joke I knew the admin was serious.

I can see why you are doing it with the other commands, it will show when a admin is abuseing. Which has been issues before as the log stated but still dont think its agood idea to post ma_chat to the public. I sure don't want to be alt tabing to say aim or somthing totalk toanother admin about apossible hacker and whats there idea on it.

Thats just my dumbarse opinion :D

SniperK
08-28-2006, 03:57 PM
i dunno if the pd gamng vent is still up..cuz i have not been on it my self for a while.but vent can be used as a way to talk to other admins..just myu opion but as far as letting the public know aobut ma_chat.i for once agree with you..i my self as a poublic player don't agree with it..if i was one of the admins i would not like to show people what i talk about..but then again thats just me becuase i'm a dick..and i talk a lotta of smack=)

HostMaster
08-28-2006, 04:38 PM
I think i agree with ma_chat commands. other commands will be made public though.

Homizide
08-28-2006, 06:48 PM
cool Im wondering why it took so long though, hoot or someone said this was gonna happen like 2 weeks ago...

Hooters
08-28-2006, 11:20 PM
well they first had to sort through all the commands that you ran in the last few weeks, alone that was enough time to kill. And it does take time to program things for something that you aren't getting paid for. Host runs this server as a courtesy to gamers. By being admin it's a privilage, not a right or something to go brag about. Being admin you have to hold yourself to higher standards while in the server and be professional. From now on (also will be posted in the app. thread) any player wanting to be admin on the pdgaming servers will have to have ventrilo and will be interviewed by me and maybe a few others. This will be to make sure they are compitent, can form complete sentences and have a head on their shoulders. The interview has nothing to do with how you play the game, it's more of an assurance that we aren't asking someone to do a job that they cannot handle. If you have any questions or complaints send me a Private msg on these forums and I will address it as time allows.

Hooter

Hooters
08-28-2006, 11:29 PM
Just a question, Homizide do you have anything to say about the commands you've been running? Giving sniper awps, and disrupting game play? Same thing i guess goes for shanky too. Thats just a gross negligence of your duties, from what I see.

HostMaster
08-29-2006, 09:26 AM
Ooooh, some accountability. me likey

SniperK
08-29-2006, 11:48 AM
its not all homi's fault.as a vet player i shouldn't take advantage of an admins abilty..thats y i don't ask for it anymore..sorry homi for gettin u in trouble

RoDenT
08-29-2006, 12:28 PM
homi still is responsible for his actions. Therefore we do not blame you, even if you pressured him. He is an admin and should take his job seriously.

HostMaster
08-29-2006, 12:43 PM
mani has been upgraded and it is now ok to issue admin commands.

Tatsuo
08-29-2006, 12:45 PM
Thanks Host.

shanknbake
08-29-2006, 02:08 PM
Just a question, Homizide do you have anything to say about the commands you've been running? Giving sniper awps, and disrupting game play? Same thing i guess goes for shanky too. Thats just a gross negligence of your duties, from what I see.

uhh...okay? I only use the "fun" commds on people i know and are cool :) ..other than that i never abused admin.

RoDenT
08-29-2006, 03:27 PM
M 08/11/2006 - 00:04:50: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : drugged user [M@ma's_B(+)Y] [STEAM_0:0:527113]

Do not use commands on other admins.

Homizide
08-29-2006, 05:50 PM
ohhI typed killed sniperk and so I gave him an awp im not sure why he got more than like 3 though. And I found out my lil bro figured out my password for my steam acount so he acsessed it from another computer instead of mine and messed some crap over.... but for the most part If I find a command I use it a lil bit get bored of it then stop, like tele interested me for about 1 week, then ma_votequestion....

shanknbake
08-29-2006, 11:04 PM
M 08/11/2006 - 00:04:50: [MANI_ADMIN_PLUGIN] Admin [»shanky»] [STEAM_0:0:2592302] Executed : drugged user [M@ma's_B(+)Y] [STEAM_0:0:527113]

Do not use commands on other admins.

you know what....take me off the admin list...If you guys are going to be THAT strict then I don't want any part of it....its a game...its sole purpose is for fun and entertainment and if being a HARDASS on the rules and regulations of a server is more important than..forget it.

its been nice knowing some of you (Host, Rabbit)
-shank

RoDenT
08-29-2006, 11:36 PM
we were lenient about the rules and look what we get, people disobeying them. It's ridiculous, so don't bitch about it now that we are doing something.

Homizide
08-30-2006, 04:54 PM
umm wasnt it a rule to only use it on bots, or other admins? (if it was harmful or could affect their play)

Caladium
08-30-2006, 05:33 PM
Nope.

Administrators shall not execute commands upon other administrators under any circumstance.

Hooters
08-30-2006, 08:39 PM
It's always been taht way since the start of wshost

Homizide
08-30-2006, 10:15 PM
funny I remembering reading you could...

HostMaster
08-30-2006, 10:34 PM
shakenbake

If you would like to be removed, we will go ahead and do it - but we weren't planning to. We aren't trying to come down hard on you specifically, from what I can tell commands like this aren't a trend for you. It is only when it becomes a trend that we get really concerned, and so there are only 1 or 2 admins that we will be modifying and/or removing and you aren't one of them.

Homizide
08-30-2006, 10:42 PM
me and rabbit?

Caladium
08-31-2006, 01:17 PM
So... when might administrator priviledges be given back(or forever revoked)?

Liggy
08-31-2006, 01:28 PM
I leave for a week to LA and all this cool stuff happens and I don't even get to see my name in it? Damnit :(

HostMaster
08-31-2006, 01:36 PM
Admin is now working again. Enjoy

KillerRabbit
08-31-2006, 08:32 PM
I leave for a week to LA and all this cool stuff happens and I don't even get to see my name in it? Damnit :(

Dig up the dirt on lig :D!!! (im busy with geting started into college but ill still be around)

Caladium
09-01-2006, 09:15 AM
(im busy with geting started into college but ill still be around)

Same ;D I'm mainly playing on weekends now..

shanknbake
09-02-2006, 06:47 PM
shakenbake

If you would like to be removed, we will go ahead and do it - but we weren't planning to. We aren't trying to come down hard on you specifically, from what I can tell commands like this aren't a trend for you. It is only when it becomes a trend that we get really concerned, and so there are only 1 or 2 admins that we will be modifying and/or removing and you aren't one of them.


sorry Host, didn't mean to sound so negitive, just that rodent was being "hostle" with me...ME!!!! i mean..im a nice guy....no need for all this negitivity right?

RoDenT
09-02-2006, 08:43 PM
i wasn't being negative towards you, or hostile, i was using you as an example. You made a mistake so I used you as a model for the other admins.

no need to be so touchy and jump the gun and ****. I know your a nice guy, but you made mistakes that you can't deny, everyone makes mistakes. No need to threaten to leave over seven harmless words that were not directed directly at you. It was a broad statement to all admins.

And on a side note to all admins just so we are clear that i am talking to all admins, Do NOT under any circumstance remove bots. We put them there for a reason that I am sure you all are already aware of.

Fishing For Bullets
09-03-2006, 11:05 AM
Just a thought, if you are going to use someone as an "example" you might x-out his name. That way, the admin that performed the action will know who you are referring to and the other admins will only be guessing. Animity goes along way, and keeps respect for all.

shanknbake
09-03-2006, 02:44 PM
Just a thought, if you are going to use someone as an "example" you might x-out his name. That way, the admin that performed the action will know who you are referring to and the other admins will only be guessing. Animity goes along way, and keeps respect for all.

here here!!!

RoDenT
09-03-2006, 07:14 PM
thank you for your advice on how i run the admins, but there was only one example in that post mx posted about abuse with an admin performing a command on another admin. There is no way the other admins would not know who did it. Even if i said admins should not perform commands on other admins without posting the command itself, everyone would know who it was.

Now if there were multiple commands done by different admins, that is a different story. Or if we didn't post the commands themselves and just saw who it was without publicizing it, i would keep him anonymous. But there was no point in being anonymous here as he was the only one who issued a command on another admin in this example. I don't know if other admins have been doing it.

Shanky is a great admin. It was just one foul up, big deal.

chrisharper23
09-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Screw that! Open the fires and let people burn!!!!!! hahaha

shanknbake
09-06-2006, 01:10 PM
Screw that! Open the fires and let people burn!!!!!! hahaha

the voice of pure evil

COM | T3h1337rMuffin!
10-01-2006, 12:45 AM
hmmm. OK. That was 5 pages long. WOW. Im blind now. Rodent, can you shoot me now. Please. Ill wait here until you do. Prefferbly with a de, or awp. Something quick and painless.


Ok, now the comment from my wise wise nonsence opinionated self.

Admin commands - be responsible for what you do.... In other words expect retaliation for it. Good work = praise. Bad work = host beating the snot outa you with his keyboard and maybe even the occassional flying mouse.

Also, why am I, Host, Rodent, and a couple others the only ones using ma_say, and ma_csay to advertise the server and pdgaming. Whats going on . there should be a quota here. Admins arent only for keeping the server clean, fun, and filled, they should be supporting the server sponsor. Especially since thats where your admin comes from, and the server also comes from.

-please visit pdgaming.com and sign up for the forums. Proudly sponsored by Philips Data -

Now is that too hard to say?

ps( I wouldnt say the goal is to cut down the admin talk, its good. MA_chat shows active admins. And athority. ALso a way for admins to commicate with each other. I dont see any problem using it frequently if called for. Especially with people acting up or getting lippy.

chrisharper23
10-01-2006, 11:57 AM
IMO I have no problem with MA_chat, its just another tool that lets admins communicate back and forth without having to allow other players to see. Not so much that they are ghosting, just its like we have more power and priviledges than regular players, so why not be able to talk back and forth?