well actually, most of what you see there......the large icons with labels, calendar, time display, and weather info are from a single program which is Avedesk, right now, avedesk is utilizing about 4 megs of memory with all that stuff in my comp......it's waaaay better than using konfabulator which would eat about 40 megs with all the widgets and stuff in my comp, you can use windowblinds and it'll use about 10 megs of memory with alot of windows open and about 600K when it's idling, as for icon packager, it's only purpose is to change how the icons look, it doesn't load any program of any kind and doesn't eat any resources

................ =) revive?